TOPIC: Kentucky prices dry 10/13/14

I have been loyal to the same dealer for over 8 years. And this person leaves the pricing on an answering machine. Keeps it up dated everyday. To keep the phone from a constant ringing annoying headache its on a separate line that sits in the shed with the ringer tone off. Checked nightly in case of an emergency with next day call backs. Its a smart way of not having to get fed up with constant phone answering.

BCastle wrote:

Hawk84 wrote:

BCastle wrote:

Just curious guys...but how do you make someone buy something they don't want to buy? Or make them pay more than they are willing to pay?

the point i was trying to make is dont treat diggers like shit when they are just simply getting prices udates, be respectful because they make your business. Is that to hard to understand? I have seen you post on several threads and always have somthing smart to say, i would just rather not ever waste my time talking to you again.

Well, I don't know if I've talked to you or I haven't. But I don't treat anyone differently unless they come to me with attitude. In that case, they can eat their sang for all I care. However, if you really think you make my business (or the business of any dealer) you are sorely mistaken. There isn't one digger here on the board or anywhere who would offer a dealer back money if he paid a high price and then the market dropped to nothing. Not one. So from that perspective, I make my own business in spite of you.

As for my comments, well, if you can't understand them just pay attention and try to keep up. If you respectfully ask, I might even explain them for you.

For instance, this one referencing buying something one doesn't want or buying at a higher price is completely at the heart of nearly all of the digger price threads here on the board. ALL of them. The general theme is that dealers are greedy and trying to shaft the poor digger. And if the diggers hold out the dealers need them so much they will pay whatever the diggers demand in the end. This is simply not true. I'm just amazed at how people can continue believing this pipe dream in spite of all the factual evidence being posted here.

I'll tell you what, if you think the pricing is going to go up a couple hundred dollars a pound call me and get a certified check in the mail. I can buy about 200 lbs right now today at a price that will make you a lot of money if the market subsequently moves up that high. But guess what...no one is buying that ginseng right now from those guys. No one.

the only thing i try to do is learn here, check prices and post prices im quoted. I have never talked to you till today, but have seen several others that you have been rude to. I know any one person doesnt make that much of a difference, but if you get a bad reputation as being a jerk, who would want to do business with you. Bottom line is no one digger makes your business but many do. And all i was posting is the fact that some dealers were rude when i called and asked prices. Now if you dont understand that then i dont know what to tell you.try and keep up i didnt try to ask for higher prices i didnt try to push my seng on anyone i posted prices i was quoted and mention the rudeness of some dealers. So please keep your smug comments to youreslf. And i dont have any illusion that seng will sky rocket but i am however holding out for a better price, it may come it may not. But you have no idea either!!! Gooday sir

Whitjr wrote:

Hey guys- Maybe all of us could take this down a notch? Everyone, IMHO, wether selling digging, or buying, needs to be respectful of each other.

A suggustion: If you run into a buyer that treats you wrong, just don\"t sell to him. go somewhere else!

i agree i try to respect everyone but sometimes its just impossible.

Hillhopper wrote:

I think if everyone were to come to terms with the way things truly are, we would better understand one another a bit better. We, to some degree or another are all out for number 1. Not to necessarily cheat one another but to make our money the best way we know how for our labors.

Diggers make money from digging and selling,dealers make money from buying and reselling. Higher level buyers pay the dealer more money for their time to acquire larger lots of root because they don't want to buy a half pound at a time. Dealers get payed to buy and resell, not to be a public informant of market trends. Its advantageous for them to be helpful to the digger and keep as much business as possible but if I (for example) answered a hundred phone calls about pricing in one week and only bought a couple of pounds....I think it would begin to wear on me a bit also. Who doesnt want to make a little extra for their efforts if possible, whether your a digger or a dealer. I do agree he was being rude and that's not a good business practice. If I was tired of answering calls that didn't lead anywhere then maybe I would post my prices weekly so my customers could keep up with the market and I could tend to other things. But then again, aside from current prices, where prices are actually headed is insider information that can be used for the knowing party's benefit so you can't actually expect someone to give all that up either and if they do, they have done you a favor.

If that fella talks to everyone like that I'm sure he won't be in business long. All I can say is if a person doesn't like the road they are traveling they should make their own, better path. Its unproductive to just complain about people not doing what you want them too. I once worked for a company where i thought i could climb the ladder to a good paying position and live comfortably. After a while i seen all they had was a stepping stool and veteran workers of their's werent being payed enough, so, i quit and went to work for myself. All i could change was what i had control of.

You cant blame a digger or a dealer for their standpoint and you also can't blame someone for using what they can to their advantage. I'm a believer in capitalism and I guess it shows.

With that being said, this is still only my opinion.

Hillhopper

i agree, and i dont expect anyone to do somthing they dont want to do i try to be as courteous as i can to others and i guess i just expect the same. An i can see how it looks like im complaining, but im new to all of this and just didnt understand why the dealers i called acted this way.

Godbless

Hawk,

It seems you still aren't getting it.

As you said, you are new here and trying to learn. Keep that in mind and realize some of the lessons are not obvious, nor are they polite or what you would like to have heard. Sugar coated advice often goes unheeded.

I asked an easy question and you lost your mind. So be it. Just another digger who knows it all.

So what was your reason for asking me that question when It clearly has nothing to do with anything i personally posted here. Think about it, and i dont want anything sugar coated the cold hard truith is just fine. Didnt lose my mind i have known people just like you my whole life you think you are superior and above everyone else and it was clear when i first joined here by comments of yours i read on other posts. I dont know it all and dont claim to, but remember neither do you. Im just gonna step away now because you clearly are just trying to stir shit up just like you have on ther topics. Not worth my time!!

Hawk84,
If that fella hasnt the personality to answer calls on a consistent basis he should take some lessons from NCSmokiesanger's dealer and somehow post his prices. Sounds like it may be best for business since he has the potential to run off sellers.

Hillhopper

BCastle wrote:

I asked an easy question and you lost your mind. So be it. Just another digger who knows it all.

...too bad really.

Yep I have sold to the same dealer for years and have no intention to sell my roots to anyone else.