well guys went up to bear country today found 9oz and that was the hardest 9oz in awhile anyway got scared to death by a big doe laying down being just as still as she could be i thought i had seen something out of the corner of my eye and when i took the 2nd look she bolted . i thought A BEAR done got me anyway here is a pic of a plant just standing there waiting on me to see it ,if it would have been a snake it would have bit me ,haha p,s the berry stem had to be 6to 10inch but not realy a big root all the roots i had found are kinda small but big tops on them its real rocky up there im going to find the grand daddy up there if it is the last thing i do ill try to get you all some pictures of the mnts i been in the last 2 weeks