I had enough ripe seed today at the house to fill my hand and I planted all of them. I tried to plant deeper than I normally would and I'll water them all through this dry spell. It looks like I am going to produce enough seed this summer to fill a row about 200feet long. Most of the plants were 4 year olds. Billy's plants are just now blooming and they are at about the same stage as the wild Tennessee plants in these pictures. I'm looking forward to planting them later this year.