TOPIC: state to state price differences.

Please forgive me but, I must state my opinion here on this matter. I have set quietly by and read all the updated prices and watched the person from VT rake in the money hand over fist and I congratulate them for it. However, when I see a buyer offering in excess of $500 for OH sang but, then state that TN sang is only worth $450 to them absolutely dumbfounds me. I'm no expert in Ginseng grading when it come to international standards but, I know that my TN sang is worth as much if not more than a lot of OH and even the VT sang that I've been watching. Be it in the handling or the over all quality and or size. I am also not so naive to believe that the sang bought from different states isn't placed together and sold in the same lot. Sang of the same size, color, and quality is placed together with little regard as to where it came from and sold together. I am dependant on the local buyer and there for am at his mercy so to speak but, I'm not in dire need of the revenue from my ginseng money. The money I gain from my \"sanging hobby\" goes towards other hobbies therefore I can and will hold onto my sang until it turns to dust, or the set amount that I will accept without feeling I was taken advantage of is achieved. It just doesn't add up when the men and women doing the \"boot leather work\" fighting mosquitoes, the broiling hot temperature, poison ivy and sore legs, backs and arms are being taken for a ride. The local buyers will always have diggers willing to all but give away their sang and keep the supply high so until alot more get on the same page the rest of us diggers will just have to bare the brunt of it. I believe good quality (large mature sang) and proper handled sang deserves higher prices but, to say that my TN root that is of the exact same quality of an OH or VT root is worth so much less is obserd. Please understand that I mean no disrespect but, I'm no fool either.

Please understand every state has a different quality ginseng than the next. And some depends on what part of that particular state you are in even. I can only pay what my buyer is available to pay me! I cannot pay $500 for TN seng when I will get $460 out of it..does that make sense......I would love to be able to make a deal with you, but at this time my buyer is not paying big money for TN seng. I apoligize that I offended you, but it is a fair offer. Also, it is very hard to give a price to someone not seeing their Ginseng in person. You may have a better quality seng than most TN diggers...but I have no idea what you have without seeing it. $450 was a fair price without seeing it. You are more than welcome to send me a 1 pound sample to view and we can go from there if you like....
Best Regards,
Brian

ok I live 30 miles from the state line,i get a non resident license and across the line in the other state and dig....now i mix this in with the root I've dug in my home state..does any one actually think a buyer can tell the difference in the out of state root and the home state root...more dealer double talk..hell just tell them it was all dug in Ohio.. I will say this for the 40 some years I've dug..Ohio root has always brought more money..don't know why..it always burns my ass when you call a buyer and the first thing he ask is \"where you from\"..I didn't call to talk about where I live ,I called to talk sang prices..i now just say why? ,what makes the difference where I'm from..few buyers have an answer to that question;)

It is actually against the law to mix two different states seng together before being certified....so thats another issue....Im just being honest with you about the prices and what I can do. You all can do what you feel is right and if my honesty isnt worth anything to you then you can call another dealer and see what he will pay you. There is a lot more to it than you have ginseng and want to sell it. Ginseng is not just ginseng. There are many grades and quality issues involved and the region it was dug affects this. Any out of state root I buy has to be certified by your home state before I can buy it in OH. Therefore I must sell it as (whatever state you are froms) Ginseng.

DOSE ANY ONE KNOW WHY TENNESSEE SENG IS SO LOW ???????

bhallginseng wrote:

It is actually against the law to mix two different states seng together before being certified....so thats another issue..

thats my point exactly hypothetically...I could bring you a pound of sang,[3/4 of that pound is tenn . root and the other 1/4 is ky]. root.or a game warden for that matter that same pound of sang and say ok pick the tenn. root out from the ky.they just couldn't do it..so if you cant tell the difference in the root ,why is it then some states root is cheaper than other states ..sounds like the old shell game being played by some one...you cant tell the difference but because you live in a different state its worth less..it has no credibility..do you think the hong kong buyers go through tons of root and separate it by states..this game is played right here by USA buyers..not overseas buyers...

Why would a international dealer from Tn: go along with any one and allow his states ginseng to sell for less ?

Why would a international dealer from Ky: go along with any one and allow his states ginseng to sell for less ?

Why would a international dealer from Ms: go along with any one and allow his states ginseng to sell for less ?

Why would a international dealer from Va: go along with any one and allow his states ginseng to sell for less ?

Why would a international dealer from any of the states where ginseng is being quoted to low in price go along with any one and allow his states ginseng to sell for less ?

Their is people at wrong in this and i agree with Chieftain that most dealers could not tell a difference in ginseng from one state to another,but i believe that the asian market buyers the ones that buy directly from our Nations international dealers are the ones making the difference in the prices of different states ginseng.

I have saw ginseng from 10 different states ginseng,,i have saw top,middle,and low quality grades of ginseng from each states ginseng 1 pound lots that i aqquired (and do not wory it was all done legal).I did this on purpose,me being a dealer and a digger i wanted to see this ginseng so I bought ginseng for personal understanding and lay it all out,graded it all,(and i know all the grading techniques)then compared it one to the other,and i will tell you that far as looks go,it is all close except the color varys often due to soil,how ever every state had some ginseng with nice rings,growth stress,long necks,ball shape,5 of those states had Mountian root 3 of them are on the low price end this season even tho their seng is just as good in every aspect as the top selling states is.

The deceit is in the oversea market they are the ones that get every states ginseng together and grade it as a lot,not as a states ginseng.

The local dealers are not the ones in fault,you can not give more than you can make,or even give what you make,their is no major profit for a small dealer,they are no more than a puppet,a chance taker,and a risk taker,i have found this out...The dry ginseng market stinks for the small dealer and that is the truth of it.

If your dealer is begging you for ginseng then you need to call me i have alot to sell him,cause i will tell you this i could care less if i get a phone call,or a visit from some one about dry ginseng at all and thats the simple truth it has not been worth the trouble,I would rather dig 1000 times over buy and sell dry ginseng.

I said this before and i will repeat it,

If you think that being a small dealer is so prfitable or that your dealer is a rip off specialist,then by all means go to the agriculture department for your state,get your dealers licence next season,and when you do let me know.

Because when all i can get is 450 a pound i want you to give me 500 a pound for it,

just let me know when you get your license,if you want to give it to me i will take 600 a pound for it,

just feel free to pay me however much you want above what you are getting for it,and you will be out of business before you get started in it.

A buy for more and sell for less business man will fall flat on his face fast...their is no wisdom in that,it would be all together foolish to do it...

You think im being a smart ellic ?

I am not,try it guys,i hear this over and over my dealer the local buyers ?

The blame is not in the small dealer,if you do not believe that then by all means quit talking and do something about it next season,,,please buy my ginseng next season i will have a load of it for you to loose 50 ,100 a pound on.

Now that is foolish talk,and everyone here that has been here a few years knows me good enough to know that i do not actualy want you to loose money paying more for ginseng than you are getting.

But understand this Neither do I nor any other small dealer want to loose by paying more than they can get,and we do not deserve to be ran down,and slerrs throwed everyday because we are not the controlers of the market,How hard can this be to understand ?

Billy.

well said ,

Well said Billy...if you have ginseng available email me and maybe we can work out a deal...bhmatc@yahoo.com

As far as how you can tell one states seng from another..could be a variety of ways...color of roots, is it long slender root?...bulby type??...fine lines on roots..theres just a lot of ways to differ seng from region....

But all in all I try to pay top dollar for seng from any state, so if you wana sell contact me, thanks

TENNESSEE PRICES??