TOPIC: Sellling seed

I can guarantee the drought has hit eastern Canada's ginseng hard. I will be picking up seed in the next two weeks, and I'll only be able to get half as much as I had last year for the specific reasons I noted earlier.

Kyjabber

Are the field growers under the same regulations, considering that CITIES does not recognize a difference in growth method?

Here in Canada a field grower can clear cut an entire forest where wild still grows, and plant \"cultivated\" ginseng.
But if I plant the same seed that once grew in the forest that he clear cut, \"in an area where wild could grow\" I'd be in violation of CITIES and our provincial laws.
The only thing being protected is the field growers bottom line. Billions are invested thru GROWER ASSOCIATIONS that ask for 50 bucks minimum per acre per year to \"protect the farmers interests\".If I contribute or join this association I would be protected as well from the rules of CITIES.

Everyone in our government that works in the ginseng industry agrees that the laws need to be changed.They also spoke of associations that the small farmer can join,certified organics,licensing of growers,inspections of my forests, boundaries of 300 meters from wild and even DNA analysis to prove where it originated.
They also spoke of revamping the export regulations, THEY KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IT'S THEIR JOB.
But it was left up to the small farmer that spends his time 24/7 farming.
I'm not puting down farmers, we know our jobs, we know what needs changing, we lack the experience of the legislators that get their income from our taxes.
The bottom line is that we as small farmers of woods type ginseng donot make a large enough impact financially for the governments agroindustry to worry about.
Thank god for the black market they keep things simple, and can teach our governments a thing or two about making money.

guy

watch out for your tranfer

The whole eastern side of our continent is and has been hit hard by the drought. The drought has also effected any seed that was stratified in the ground.
Expect price increases and shortages. We will not dig up our stratified till the end of the month but don't expect a problem, it's in the bush.
Our plants produced less than half the seed of last year and that was no banner year. It is more profitable to plant what seed we have than sell it this year and next.

Guy

guy wrote:

Kyjabber

Are the field growers under the same regulations, considering that CITIES does not recognize a difference in growth method?

Here in Canada a field grower can clear cut an entire forest where wild still grows, and plant \"cultivated\" ginseng.
But if I plant the same seed that once grew in the forest that he clear cut, \"in an area where wild could grow\" I'd be in violation of CITIES and our provincial laws.
The only thing being protected is the field growers bottom line. Billions are invested thru GROWER ASSOCIATIONS that ask for 50 bucks minimum per acre per year to \"protect the farmers interests\".If I contribute or join this association I would be protected as well from the rules of CITIES.

Everyone in our government that works in the ginseng industry agrees that the laws need to be changed.They also spoke of associations that the small farmer can join,certified organics,licensing of growers,inspections of my forests, boundaries of 300 meters from wild and even DNA analysis to prove where it originated.
They also spoke of revamping the export regulations, THEY KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IT'S THEIR JOB.
But it was left up to the small farmer that spends his time 24/7 farming.
I'm not puting down farmers, we know our jobs, we know what needs changing, we lack the experience of the legislators that get their income from our taxes.
The bottom line is that we as small farmers of woods type ginseng donot make a large enough impact financially for the governments agroindustry to worry about.
Thank god for the black market they keep things simple, and can teach our governments a thing or two about making money.

guy

Those would have to be the fine details and questions that would need answering. As I have done with other programs and with the ginseng program, I would definitely take a look at what's currently out there in terms of grower programs and hopefully take some lessons those officials have already learned before making my own recommendations.

I understand what you are saying from a small farm perspective about being jacks and jills of all trades. I, too, cannot be the eyes and ears everywhere and pretend to know everything about every operation. But what I can do is listen and try to balance and make recommendations on the best needs for Kentucky's industry. That's why it's so important to make issues known.

Just like in a marriage or a close relationship, if your partner isn't telling you something is wrong, you can't read their mind. I can't read ya'll's minds either!

And like the rest of you, I am human, with limitations.

And a black market wouldn't be needed or warranted had greed not pushed mother nature to start with.