Thanks Guys - those were some really nice roots.
I hunted another bluff (this one was more north/east facing) in a different area of the county later last fall and found the same quality of seng growing there. Just biger, heathier, taller, lots of berries, taller berry stems, big broad leaves.
Our creek/river blufs around here are usually anywhere from 200-300' tall and the bottom 1/4 of the hill there will be a few places where there are some flats or places where it is not too steep. Up at the top it will be just a rock face, very steep, but down towards the bottom it will sort of flatten out some and in those more flat areas all of the leaf litter from above falls and collects and with winter freeze and thaw, lots of rocks break off from the bluff and the soil is just full of rock chips.
Most of the bottom part of the hill may be fairly steep 12/12 like pitch, but with a few areas of flats or less steep places on it.
That is where you got to mountain goat on up there and look around. It may be hard going, but it may be well worth it.
After I dug all those big fat roots on that bluff on Sept 3, I went back down to that same bluff later in the season, around the first of October and looked another spot over good and found several more.
Below is a youtube vid that shows what I found on that return trip.
www.youtube.com/yttnhunter#p/u/9/ohB0SfTBJiQ
Take a look at the root on that first big broad leaved 3 that I dug - again nice and fat and very short root neck.
I found around 25 roots on that section of bluff and all were nice and fat, bulby, corky type roots, and all had lots of root hairs, and all had very short root necks (looked to be between 5-8 years old). Most weighted between 1 oz and 1.5 oz.
I think one of the keys to finding good seng her in Middle TN and perhaps West TN is going to be finding places where you have large exposed rock faces that face North-to-East and hunting the flats around the bottom of them. Or hollows that have rock out croppings or just extra rocky soil.
Back in 2008 me and my partner dug 6 lbs 3 oz or green seng in 5-6 hours in a hollow named Rockey Hollow.
It was rightfully named.
If you have any hollows in your area named like Rocky Hollow or Rocky Branch - better see if you can get permission to hunt em.
Good Luck !
TNHunter