TOPIC: seiners against poachers

I would like to start a seiners against poachers club. Where we can crack down ,share info ,and exchange idea to combat against poachers. Any ideas how we can start this. Maybe call it seiners against poaching. Sap for short, all here share names of poachers. And a member from each state have all info for their state ,and be in charge of reporting it to the states coordinater..just want to stop this nonsense. If interested let's get ball rolling, I'm sure we all no someone that goes about corrupt!

Not one nibble? I don't know any buyers but I do know some of the diggers

Belico,
Up north a lot of us call GinSENG , \"SENG\". Never heard it called Sein until you started posting. Not making fun or any thing. Just interesting that different things are called different things in different parts of the country. We call Morel mushrooms: sponges or morels. Down in southern Ohio some folk call morel mushrooms \"Molley Moochers\" or \"Dry Land Fish\". Don't see the connection but that's a fact.
Thanks for your post. Enjoy them a lot.
Thanks,
Latt

Dry land fish here Mr Latt.

bellco ky wrote:

I would like to start a seiners against poachers club. Where we can crack down ,share info ,and exchange idea to combat against poachers. Any ideas how we can start this. Maybe call it seiners against poaching. Sap for short, all here share names of poachers. And a member from each state have all info for their state ,and be in charge of reporting it to the states coordinater..just want to stop this nonsense. If interested let's get ball rolling, I'm sure we all no someone that goes about corrupt!

bellco ky... While your suggestion is a noble venture, I fear that it will be a hard one to get organized or institute! One thing that I will warn against and that is to never and I really mean never, post any names of persons that you know or are suspected of poaching or persons buying and selling Ginseng out of season or persons buying and selling illegal small Ginseng roots (flat tops and two prongs). As you know, a person is considered innocent until proven guilty and by posting names here, you can open yourself up to a host of Liability and Defamation Law Suits. Once any of these individuals are prosecuted and found guilty, then I believe that their names can be posted here or on other forums. Just be careful so that you don't end up suffering in trying to do what is right!

I believe that we all can share ideas and tactics to use to get these folks caught or even post information about where they operate as long as no names, addresses or telephone numbers are posted. The main thing is, that we all do our part to stem poaching of Ginseng, the buying and selling of Ginseng out of season and the buying and selling of illegal small Ginseng roots. Maybe this club could actually be part of the Ginseng Diggers and Growers Association if it ever gets off of the ground. We could form a \"Code of Conduct\" that we would carry in card form to present to property owners when asking for permission to hunt Ginseng on their' property and hand the cards out to others at Ginseng root buying and selling locations (i.e. where the Ginseng Dealers set up to buy) and at other events or locations. A \"Code of Conduct\" has well served members of the North American Hunting Club for many years when trying to gain permission to hunt properties and especially properties that were formerly off-limits (posted) to everyone but the property owners.

Just so that you will know, I will do everything within reason to insure that the outlaws in and around my area, get what they deserve and that is time behind bars!


Frank

Hey Everyone,

I agree Bellco ky, that we as diggers/growers/dealers all need to be the eyes and ears of the folks who enforce the ginseng laws. Here in Ohio, it is the Ohio Division of Wildlife (our local game wardens). However, Frank is correct, posting names and other information about suspected poachers is indeed libelous and can get you sued.

I agree with Frank, that would be one of the primary objectives to the Grower's and Digger's Association once we get it off the ground. I think education is the key. I've spoken to diggers this year who did not know that it was illegal to harvest 2-prong plants.

I also like the idea of a Code of Conduct for the association's members.

Latt wrote:

Belico,
Up north a lot of us call GinSENG , \"SENG\". Never heard it called Sein until you started posting. Not making fun or any thing. Just interesting that different things are called different things in different parts of the country. We call Morel mushrooms: sponges or morels. Down in southern Ohio some folk call morel mushrooms \"Molley Moochers\" or \"Dry Land Fish\". Don't see the connection but that's a fact.
Thanks for your post. Enjoy them a lot.
Thanks,
Latt

lol hickory chickens here

huntsman53 wrote:

bellco ky wrote:

I would like to start a seiners against poachers club. Where we can crack down ,share info ,and exchange idea to combat against poachers. Any ideas how we can start this. Maybe call it seiners against poaching. Sap for short, all here share names of poachers. And a member from each state have all info for their state ,and be in charge of reporting it to the states coordinater..just want to stop this nonsense. If interested let's get ball rolling, I'm sure we all no someone that goes about corrupt!

bellco ky... While your suggestion is a noble venture, I fear that it will be a hard one to get organized or institute! One thing that I will warn against and that is to never and I really mean never, post any names of persons that you know or are suspected of poaching or persons buying and selling Ginseng out of season or persons buying and selling illegal small Ginseng roots (flat tops and two prongs). As you know, a person is considered innocent until proven guilty and by posting names here, you can open yourself up to a host of Liability and Defamation Law Suits. Once any of these individuals are prosecuted and found guilty, then I believe that their names can be posted here or on other forums. Just be careful so that you don't end up suffering in trying to do what is right!

I believe that we all can share ideas and tactics to use to get these folks caught or even post information about where they operate as long as no names, addresses or telephone numbers are posted. The main thing is, that we all do our part to stem poaching of Ginseng, the buying and selling of Ginseng out of season and the buying and selling of illegal small Ginseng roots. Maybe this club could actually be part of the Ginseng Diggers and Growers Association if it ever gets off of the ground. We could form a \"Code of Conduct\" that we would carry in card form to present to property owners when asking for permission to hunt Ginseng on their' property and hand the cards out to others at Ginseng root buying and selling locations (i.e. where the Ginseng Dealers set up to buy) and at other events or locations. A \"Code of Conduct\" has well served members of the North American Hunting Club for many years when trying to gain permission to hunt properties and especially properties that were formerly off-limits (posted) to everyone but the property owners.

Just so that you will know, I will do everything within reason to insure that the outlaws in and around my area, get what they deserve and that is time behind bars!


Frank

thanks Frank . Had not thought about that. Surly we van help some way. I'm going email my state ,every time I see a fake dealer buying out of season.. not see but hear. I know one guys that digs spring till the last plant falls. He will be reported. Any ideas how to trade info. Maybe emailing . Idk just concerned. Thanks guy if all seiners were like u guys world be better place.

BCastle wrote:

Hey Everyone,

I agree Bellco ky, that we as diggers/growers/dealers all need to be the eyes and ears of the folks who enforce the ginseng laws. Here in Ohio, it is the Ohio Division of Wildlife (our local game wardens). However, Frank is correct, posting names and other information about suspected poachers is indeed libelous and can get you sued.

I agree with Frank, that would be one of the primary objectives to the Grower's and Digger's Association once we get it off the ground. I think education is the key. I've spoken to diggers this year who did not know that it was illegal to harvest 2-prong plants.

I also like the idea of a Code of Conduct for the association's members.

bcastle been to your site. You my friend are a true steward ,of our beloved plant. Thank you sir..

bellco ky wrote:

thanks Frank . Had not thought about that. Surly we van help some way. I'm going email my state ,every time I see a fake dealer buying out of season.. not see but hear. I know one guys that digs spring till the last plant falls. He will be reported. Any ideas how to trade info. Maybe emailing . Idk just concerned. Thanks guy if all seiners were like u guys world be better place.

Reporting these folks to the State and to local Law Enforcement which maybe Game Wardens as it is here in TN and also in OH, seems to be the best option! You could share the info with others primarily in KY as it is of little use elsewhere unless these folks are crossing State lines to do their illegal activities. If you share info via email, just be careful who you send it to. Make sure you know who they are and that they are also above-board in what they do, as some of the folks that you are reporting could sign-up to these forums to gather information, so beware.


Frank